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Vol. 13 Issue 3
# 133781 Looking for information on Elijah & Polly Henson Self. Elijah was son of Isaac & Nancy Self. Would like to have parent's names of Polly Henson if anyone has them. Also would like to know if they had any children besides Emeline, who married Benjamin Goodwin. I had info from somewhere that Elijah & Polly married in Rhea County, TN, but when I requested a copy of the marriage license, I was told that they have no record of their marriage. Any help in that area would be appreciated, too!
# 133782 Is there anyone out there in Self Land who needs information from Franklin County, AL? The library has great cemetery records and I can check for other info if anyone has anything specific (marriage records, census records, etc.).
# 133783 I am trying to find a Phylis Selph that married a Johnson Gunn. They are on the 1930 Census in Moultrie (Georgia). He is listed as John and she as Phelis. Any info?
#133784 Looking for children of:Robert Lee Self b: 15 April 1906 d: 13 Oct 1957 Wichita, KS wife: Leah b: 20 April 1914 d: 22 Dec 1999 Wichita, KS Both lived in Wichita, Kansas starting from at least 1928 Maybe one of their children? Ruby P. Self b: 27 Dec 1928 d: 28 Dec 1928 Also does any one know of a Self reunion that is held in Topeka, Kansas every year in or around June? I have located a copy of my grandfather's obituary (Robert Lee Self). I knew very little of my grandfather & his side of family so had to start from scratch to locate him. From info that I have received I believe that he is the son Robert (Bob) Self & (Eva) Mary Ethel Watson. Robert (Bob) Self parents were Elijah C. Self & Emma Sue Melton & his parents William Self & Leanne Spencer. Obituary info from the The Wichita Eagle news paper, (Wichita, Kansas) Robert Lee Self: b: 15 April 1906 Silverton, Texas d: 13 Oct 1957 Wichita, KS., Wife: Leah A.: b: 20 April 1914 d: 22 Dec 1999 Wichita, KS., President of Self Inc., resided in Wichita for 25 years. Children: Mrs Shirley Ressner (daughter), Eldon (son), Dee (son), Two Sisters: Oleta of Sherman Oaks, Calf., Iola Martin of Tulsa; Three Brothers: Orvell of Tulsa, Errol of Tulsa, Howard of Eugene, Ore. According to Leah's obituary: Children: Shirley Chuk (daughter) of Tucson, Eldon (son) of Wichita, Thel (son) of Udall, Leah's Sister: Opha Beal of Andover, KS.
# 133791 Looking for descendants of Betty Vick Selph born December 09, 1863 in Danville, Kentucky, and died September 07, 1919 in Spokane, Washington.
Descendants of Betty Vick Selph and Ervin Frieson Burton
1. Betty Vick Selph (Duncan Hyder) was born December 09, 1863 in Danville, Kentucky, and died September 07, 1919 in Spokane, Washington. She married Ervin Frieson Burton January 26, 1886 in Near Murfreesboro, Tennessee by Rev. G. E. Waters, son of Mollie. He was born June 02, 1855 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, and died July 16, 1906 in Lawton, Oklahoma at Fort Sill.
Betty Vick Selph - Burial: September 15, 1919, Lawton, Oklahoma
Fact 1 (2): Ancestors.com reports a TN birthplace
More About Ervin Frieson Burton:
Occupation: Bureau of Indian Affairs
Children of Betty Selph and Ervin Burton are:
+ 2 i. Betty Vick Burton, born May 29, 1902 in Lawton, Oklahoma; died May 29, 1973 in Pasadena, CA.
3 ii. Lily Selph Burton, born September 18, 1886 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. She married (1) M. R. Fox June 13, 1923. She married (2) Walter Emgers 1934.
4 iii. John Williams Burton, born April 04, 1890 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; died July 10, 1942 in Breneerton, Washington. He married Mabel Thorne October 06, 1917 in Spokane, Washington.
+ 5 iv. Sallie McLean Burton, born June 10, 1892 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; died May 09, 1968 in Walla Walla, Washington.
6 v. George Crosthwaite Burton, born December 15, 1894 in Anaderko, Oklahoma; died in Kodiak, Alaska. He married Carnie Thorne January 21, 1919 in Seattle, Washington.
7 vi. Lavinia Murfree Burton, born August 20, 1898 in Lawton, Oklahoma, Fort Sillas. She married William Silas Winter October 26, 1923 in Redwood City, California.
8 vii. Ervin Frieson Burton, born March 09, 1900 in Lawton, Oklahoma, Fort Sillas; died May 10, 1901 in Lawton, Oklahoma, Fort Sillas.
9 viii. Jackson Napoleon Burton, born February 12, 1906 in Lawton, Oklahoma; died in Sacramento, California. He married Eleanor M. Helbush September 09, 1933 in San Francisco, California.
10 ix. Mary Frieson Burton, born December 04, 1888 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. She married James W. Havens February 12, 1907 in Lawton, Oklahoma.
Our family from Betty Vick Burton is quite close, and spread through out the country. W
# 133792 I am looking for Jennie Self's husband, Charlie B. Franklin. Their daughter was my Grandmother, Tamar Gatsie Ann Elizabeth Franklin Pittman. Jennie's mother was Tamar Boston Self and her father was James Self. Jennie was born February 6, 1855 in Alabama and died August 28, 1926 in Vernon Parish, Louisiana.
# 133793 Am looking for a Samual Self that live in Pilot, Point Texas in Denton Co in 1904 Had three Daughter one Son Wife name was Mary Daughters were Jessie, Bertha & Jenny. Son not Sure either Odee or Dee or Doyle
#133801 William Self married Rebecca Wear (Ware) in Rhea County, TN in July, 1812 (license issued on the 14th, but never returned (?)) and Betsy (Elizabeth) Self married Jacob Weir (Ware/Wear) in Rhea County, TN in August, 1813 (license was issued on the 18th, but never returned (?))...does anyone know (for sure) if Rebecca & Jacob were siblings and if their father was Samuel Wear, born May 25, 1766?
# 133802 I am looking for information on Hannah Self, North Carolina, Burke County per the 1810 census, m. Allen David Stokes, b. 1770 VA., 6 children: Jones; Mary b. 1795; John Bergen b. 1797; David b. 07 Jan. 1802; Elizabeth b. 1804; Sarah b. 1805. Any information would be much appreciated. The census states they came to NC from Va. but I have not been able to locate either Hannah or Allen prior to the 1810 census. I would very much like more info on Hannah.
# 133803 I am the granddaughter of Harley Self and Flossie Wilson of Washington C.H. Ohio, Fayette County. I was told I may be a descendant of James Self who was married to Maria Elmore. That I may be from a generation of the modern Selfs of which there are not many records. My grandfather was born in 1865 in Fayette County, Ohio as far as I know. He had several sisters that I can remember, Bessie Self and Pearl. My father was Closson Thomas Self his name could be spelled "Closom". If anyone can help with any information, it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, and I really enjoy looking at all the information everyone has gathered, it's really interesting reading.
# 133804 I am seeking information on my Grandfather's mother. Her name was Emma Self, she married Thomas M. McCoy March 20, 1888, and they were of Union County, GA. where they also married. Their children were John Gordon McCoy, Dora McCoy, Eller McCoy, and Garn McCoy. Second marriage was to Thomas J. Hughes May 19, 1901 who was of Union County or possibly Fannin County where he and Emma married. Her father was John Jerry Self, born North Carolina, and mother Margaret Daniel. Margaret Daniel was born in Union County, Georgia and married there also.
# 133805 I am attempting to find information and relatives related to my gggrandmother Mary Jane Self. She was born October 8,1853 in Mississippi to Elijah Self and Louisa Ann Sibley. She married my gggrandfather James K. Polk Gill. She passed away on June 24, 1939 in Forest Hill, La. and is buried in Glenmora. Her parents, Elijah and Louisa are both buried in Many, LA. Elijah was born May 9,1819 in Mississippi and passed away on December 26,1902. Louisa was born on November 6,1825 and passed away on June 28,1900. Look forward to extending my knowledge of this portion of the Self family. Thanks to all for your help in making tracking the Self ancestors an enjoyable experience.
Vol. 14 Issue 1
# 141221 I have been searching for several years for the family of my maternal grandfather, William J. Self (William's middle name may be Jackson or Jefferson). William was most likely born in the late 1800s or the early 1900s and probably lived in Jefferson &/or Blount County Alabama from the time of his birth until at least the 1930s. William married Thelma G. Edwards sometime after 1915 in either Jefferson or Blount Co. and by the early 1920s William, Thelma and their 3 children were living in Jefferson County where they appear in the City Directories. The only other information that I have is that William's family had been in Blount &/or Jefferson County Alabama for several generations, and during the 1920s William was employed by the railroad. However, between 1925 to 1930 William and Thelma ended their marriage and Thelma moved her family to California, at which time, all contact with William and the Self family was lost. The names of William and Thelma's children are: William, Thomas and Mary Elizabeth. Mary Elizabeth was born on April 5, 1921 in Birmingham Ala.
# 141222 Once again I need help finding the date and place of death and burial of my great grand mother Alice Caldonia SELF b. 1868 Ga. married about. 1885 to Caleb Platt Mott in Arkansas he died in 1907 she remarried in 1912 to J. M. HUGHES and he died a widower in 1944. So she was alive in 1912 and died before 1944. Any help here appreciated. Alice C. SELF is daughter of William H. SELF 1832 Ga. who is son to John N. SELF 1813 Bledsoe, Tn.
# 141223 I am descended through my great grandmother, Dora (Doretta) K. Veatch 1868-1961 to Rev. Wheelock and Rebecca Clark. Dora's mother was a Dora C. Woodcock who married John Veatch, son of James Clifford from IN. My parents did not mention any relation to Self, so I'm not at all certain of the connection except for the fact that the Self Family Newsletter comes up in the search of Veatch/Wheelock families. MY great grandmother's family are from many states--MD, VA, PA, NY, MA, IA, MO, TX,CA, IN, KY, etc. etc. Anything sound familiar? Most of Dora's married life was spent in PA what is now Centre County, where she died.
Reply by Dan McCarthy:
Self Family Newsletter, Volume 1, Issue 2, page 57, all from the records of Geraldine McCollum, of Dixon, Illinois.
Marriage Licenses of Frederick County Maryland, 1778-1800
John Self to Rebecca Veatch, March 04, 1783
The Diary of Hezekiah Wilson
"Mary Self was married to Thomas Veatch on the 10th day of October 1801" " John Self departed this life on the 16th of April 1801"
Marriage Licenses of Frederick County Maryland, 1778-1800
John Self to Rebecca Veatch, March 04, 1783
We Veitches, Veatches, Veaches,, Veeches, by Lawrence Guthrie, 1974, page 106. - Ann Veatch, daughter of John and Grace Masters Veatch, married ____ Self, who preceded her in death. Her will was written on the 25th of September 1775, and proved the 25th January, 1776. In it she left legacies to Ann Richards, Lettie Self, and Philander Self; also to son John Self and grandson Elias Plummer, the son of a deceased daughter. Silas Veatch, administrator. (A Joel Plummer and wife Mary Self remove to Hancock County, Indiana in 1836 - dcm)
From the Self Family Newsletter, Volume 11, Issue 2, page 42. The will of Richard Self, 31 December 1773, Frederick County, MD., proven 12 April 1774 names son - John Halling Self, and Ann Self rest of personal Estate. Witnesses include: Thomas Veatch.
# 141231 Still looking for descendants of Self's in Madison and Pickaway Counties in Ohio. My ancestors, James and Maria (Elmore) Self were married in Westmoreland County, VA., on 19 December 1825. I have not been able to find James Self's parents or siblings in VA. In the 1850 Madison Co. Ohio Census, James (age 44, birthplace VA.) and Maria (age 43, birthplace VA.; however 1860 & 1870 census lists her birthplace as Maryland) with the following children: James 19, VA.; Mary 17, VA.; John 16, VA.; Edward 14, OH.; Emily 10, OH.; Mariah 8, OH.; Stephen 5, OH.; twins Labin and Lemuel 3 months, OH. (Eldest daughter Ellen was not living at home at time of census.
I descend from the son John Self. He married Mary J. Westin 6 August 1854 in Madison Co. OH. Their children were: James, b. 1855 d. in infancy; Mariah Jane, b. 1856; and Irving Eugene, born 20 May 1858. Mary J. (Westin) Self died in September 1858 shortly after the birth of Irving. John married Jemima Nash 25 May 1859 and they had the following children: twins May (girl) and Marion (boy), born 1860; John, born 1863; Lydia, born 1864; and Diana, born 1867.
Irving Self married Alice Combs in 1891 Kahoka, Clark County, MO. Their children: Albert Walter, born 1893; DeWayne Terry, born 1897; Irving Eugene Jr., born 1900; Lucian Bartier "Jack" Self, born 1903; and Floyd Lee Ermine, born 1911, died 1923.
Would love to hear from anyone related to any of these lines and hopefully find the parents and siblings of James Self in Virginia. See also my website for information and family pictures.
# 141241 Born in Georgia, reared in the home of a Mr. Self, William Burt was born 30 January 1797 and died 19 May, 1900, at the age of 103 years, three months, and 19 days. One day, when he was sent to the Mill with a turn of corn, he met a man there who engaged him in conversation, and the man asked if he knew what his name was, and he replied - "William Self". The man told him "your real name is Burt", and that he was not a Self. This man told him he had a sister in Mississippi. So when William went back home from the Mill, he packed his best clothing, and left home, never to return to the Self home, or to Georgia.
William Burt was my great great grandfather and this story is all the information I have been able to collect on him. How much of it is accurate, I don't know, but I do know that he left a legacy which I am grateful for.
# 141242 Looking for information on Capt. W. A. Selph. He was in the 38th Mississippi Infantry, army of the Confederate States of America. Capt. Selph died in action on May 31, 1863 at the battle of Vicksburg, MS., and is buried in the paupers' cemetery there. Any information about him or his family would be appreciated. Apparently many records were destroyed and I have been unable to locate details. Anyone have info?
Volume 14 Issue 2
#142531 As Robert J. Self and wife, Tabitha Jane Self and some children still at home, some born post-Civil War, in the Holmes County, Miss., Federal Census of 1880, around West, why did someone install the flat, metal marker for him at Mt. Pleasant Cemetery in northern Holmes County, saying he died in 1865?
#142532 I would like to communicate with folks who descend from the Susan Self born ca. 1829 and died 1868 in Blount Co. AL. She married William Harkey Love, a Methodist minister (circuit rider), born July 6, 1831 and died Oct. 4, 1907 in Blount Co. AL. Their daughter Louisa Evaline love (1849-1928) married my Grandfather, Dallas M. Morton in 1865, Blount County, AL.
#142533 I'm not sure who the people in this photo are. They are either Emeriah Self and Frances "Fanny" Self Burleson, or they Are Hilkiah "Hill K" Self and Elizabeth O. Stokes. Can't remember where I got the photo or any information about it. Any help from my fellow Self research-ers might give will be very much appreciated.
#142534 Have been researching the NE Indiana Self families for 40 years. Would like to find someone related to John Self, b. ca 1811, Virginia, who married my great-grandmother.
#142535 NC/NGA: Sarah Self b c 1780 NC m. William Daniel. They went to AL ca. 1821-24 & back to N GA. She is believed to be related to Job Self of N GA. as she named one of sons Job Daniel. Ties to Francis Self of AL also. She and William went to AL to help "settle his estate" according to family legend. Daniels used Francis as given name for several generations. Seek to tie Sarah to the Selfs of Union & Lumpkin Co. GA. She d. after 1850 in home of Josiah Daniel, her son. They are buried at Shady Grove Methodist Cemetery, Union Co, GA.
#142541 I've been told that Elijah Self (son of Isaac & Nancy) and Polly Henson were married in Rhea County, TN abt. 5/10/1812. I requested a copy of their marriage license from Rhea County last year and was told that it wasn't there. Does anyone have a copy of their marriage license?
# 133781 Looking for information on Elijah & Polly Henson Self. Elijah was son of Isaac & Nancy Self. Would like to have parent's names of Polly Henson if anyone has them. Also would like to know if they had any children besides Emeline, who married Benjamin Goodwin. I had info from somewhere that Elijah & Polly married in Rhea County, TN, but when I requested a copy of the marriage license, I was told that they have no record of their marriage. Any help in that area would be appreciated, too!
# 133782 Is there anyone out there in Self Land who needs information from Franklin County, AL? The library has great cemetery records and I can check for other info if anyone has anything specific (marriage records, census records, etc.).
# 133783 I am trying to find a Phylis Selph that married a Johnson Gunn. They are on the 1930 Census in Moultrie (Georgia). He is listed as John and she as Phelis. Any info?
#133784 Looking for children of:Robert Lee Self b: 15 April 1906 d: 13 Oct 1957 Wichita, KS wife: Leah b: 20 April 1914 d: 22 Dec 1999 Wichita, KS Both lived in Wichita, Kansas starting from at least 1928 Maybe one of their children? Ruby P. Self b: 27 Dec 1928 d: 28 Dec 1928 Also does any one know of a Self reunion that is held in Topeka, Kansas every year in or around June? I have located a copy of my grandfather's obituary (Robert Lee Self). I knew very little of my grandfather & his side of family so had to start from scratch to locate him. From info that I have received I believe that he is the son Robert (Bob) Self & (Eva) Mary Ethel Watson. Robert (Bob) Self parents were Elijah C. Self & Emma Sue Melton & his parents William Self & Leanne Spencer. Obituary info from the The Wichita Eagle news paper, (Wichita, Kansas) Robert Lee Self: b: 15 April 1906 Silverton, Texas d: 13 Oct 1957 Wichita, KS., Wife: Leah A.: b: 20 April 1914 d: 22 Dec 1999 Wichita, KS., President of Self Inc., resided in Wichita for 25 years. Children: Mrs Shirley Ressner (daughter), Eldon (son), Dee (son), Two Sisters: Oleta of Sherman Oaks, Calf., Iola Martin of Tulsa; Three Brothers: Orvell of Tulsa, Errol of Tulsa, Howard of Eugene, Ore. According to Leah's obituary: Children: Shirley Chuk (daughter) of Tucson, Eldon (son) of Wichita, Thel (son) of Udall, Leah's Sister: Opha Beal of Andover, KS.
# 133791 Looking for descendants of Betty Vick Selph born December 09, 1863 in Danville, Kentucky, and died September 07, 1919 in Spokane, Washington.
Descendants of Betty Vick Selph and Ervin Frieson Burton
1. Betty Vick Selph (Duncan Hyder) was born December 09, 1863 in Danville, Kentucky, and died September 07, 1919 in Spokane, Washington. She married Ervin Frieson Burton January 26, 1886 in Near Murfreesboro, Tennessee by Rev. G. E. Waters, son of Mollie. He was born June 02, 1855 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, and died July 16, 1906 in Lawton, Oklahoma at Fort Sill.
Betty Vick Selph - Burial: September 15, 1919, Lawton, Oklahoma
Fact 1 (2): Ancestors.com reports a TN birthplace
More About Ervin Frieson Burton:
Occupation: Bureau of Indian Affairs
Children of Betty Selph and Ervin Burton are:
+ 2 i. Betty Vick Burton, born May 29, 1902 in Lawton, Oklahoma; died May 29, 1973 in Pasadena, CA.
3 ii. Lily Selph Burton, born September 18, 1886 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. She married (1) M. R. Fox June 13, 1923. She married (2) Walter Emgers 1934.
4 iii. John Williams Burton, born April 04, 1890 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; died July 10, 1942 in Breneerton, Washington. He married Mabel Thorne October 06, 1917 in Spokane, Washington.
+ 5 iv. Sallie McLean Burton, born June 10, 1892 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; died May 09, 1968 in Walla Walla, Washington.
6 v. George Crosthwaite Burton, born December 15, 1894 in Anaderko, Oklahoma; died in Kodiak, Alaska. He married Carnie Thorne January 21, 1919 in Seattle, Washington.
7 vi. Lavinia Murfree Burton, born August 20, 1898 in Lawton, Oklahoma, Fort Sillas. She married William Silas Winter October 26, 1923 in Redwood City, California.
8 vii. Ervin Frieson Burton, born March 09, 1900 in Lawton, Oklahoma, Fort Sillas; died May 10, 1901 in Lawton, Oklahoma, Fort Sillas.
9 viii. Jackson Napoleon Burton, born February 12, 1906 in Lawton, Oklahoma; died in Sacramento, California. He married Eleanor M. Helbush September 09, 1933 in San Francisco, California.
10 ix. Mary Frieson Burton, born December 04, 1888 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. She married James W. Havens February 12, 1907 in Lawton, Oklahoma.
Our family from Betty Vick Burton is quite close, and spread through out the country. W
# 133792 I am looking for Jennie Self's husband, Charlie B. Franklin. Their daughter was my Grandmother, Tamar Gatsie Ann Elizabeth Franklin Pittman. Jennie's mother was Tamar Boston Self and her father was James Self. Jennie was born February 6, 1855 in Alabama and died August 28, 1926 in Vernon Parish, Louisiana.
# 133793 Am looking for a Samual Self that live in Pilot, Point Texas in Denton Co in 1904 Had three Daughter one Son Wife name was Mary Daughters were Jessie, Bertha & Jenny. Son not Sure either Odee or Dee or Doyle
#133801 William Self married Rebecca Wear (Ware) in Rhea County, TN in July, 1812 (license issued on the 14th, but never returned (?)) and Betsy (Elizabeth) Self married Jacob Weir (Ware/Wear) in Rhea County, TN in August, 1813 (license was issued on the 18th, but never returned (?))...does anyone know (for sure) if Rebecca & Jacob were siblings and if their father was Samuel Wear, born May 25, 1766?
# 133802 I am looking for information on Hannah Self, North Carolina, Burke County per the 1810 census, m. Allen David Stokes, b. 1770 VA., 6 children: Jones; Mary b. 1795; John Bergen b. 1797; David b. 07 Jan. 1802; Elizabeth b. 1804; Sarah b. 1805. Any information would be much appreciated. The census states they came to NC from Va. but I have not been able to locate either Hannah or Allen prior to the 1810 census. I would very much like more info on Hannah.
# 133803 I am the granddaughter of Harley Self and Flossie Wilson of Washington C.H. Ohio, Fayette County. I was told I may be a descendant of James Self who was married to Maria Elmore. That I may be from a generation of the modern Selfs of which there are not many records. My grandfather was born in 1865 in Fayette County, Ohio as far as I know. He had several sisters that I can remember, Bessie Self and Pearl. My father was Closson Thomas Self his name could be spelled "Closom". If anyone can help with any information, it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, and I really enjoy looking at all the information everyone has gathered, it's really interesting reading.
# 133804 I am seeking information on my Grandfather's mother. Her name was Emma Self, she married Thomas M. McCoy March 20, 1888, and they were of Union County, GA. where they also married. Their children were John Gordon McCoy, Dora McCoy, Eller McCoy, and Garn McCoy. Second marriage was to Thomas J. Hughes May 19, 1901 who was of Union County or possibly Fannin County where he and Emma married. Her father was John Jerry Self, born North Carolina, and mother Margaret Daniel. Margaret Daniel was born in Union County, Georgia and married there also.
# 133805 I am attempting to find information and relatives related to my gggrandmother Mary Jane Self. She was born October 8,1853 in Mississippi to Elijah Self and Louisa Ann Sibley. She married my gggrandfather James K. Polk Gill. She passed away on June 24, 1939 in Forest Hill, La. and is buried in Glenmora. Her parents, Elijah and Louisa are both buried in Many, LA. Elijah was born May 9,1819 in Mississippi and passed away on December 26,1902. Louisa was born on November 6,1825 and passed away on June 28,1900. Look forward to extending my knowledge of this portion of the Self family. Thanks to all for your help in making tracking the Self ancestors an enjoyable experience.
Vol. 14 Issue 1
# 141221 I have been searching for several years for the family of my maternal grandfather, William J. Self (William's middle name may be Jackson or Jefferson). William was most likely born in the late 1800s or the early 1900s and probably lived in Jefferson &/or Blount County Alabama from the time of his birth until at least the 1930s. William married Thelma G. Edwards sometime after 1915 in either Jefferson or Blount Co. and by the early 1920s William, Thelma and their 3 children were living in Jefferson County where they appear in the City Directories. The only other information that I have is that William's family had been in Blount &/or Jefferson County Alabama for several generations, and during the 1920s William was employed by the railroad. However, between 1925 to 1930 William and Thelma ended their marriage and Thelma moved her family to California, at which time, all contact with William and the Self family was lost. The names of William and Thelma's children are: William, Thomas and Mary Elizabeth. Mary Elizabeth was born on April 5, 1921 in Birmingham Ala.
# 141222 Once again I need help finding the date and place of death and burial of my great grand mother Alice Caldonia SELF b. 1868 Ga. married about. 1885 to Caleb Platt Mott in Arkansas he died in 1907 she remarried in 1912 to J. M. HUGHES and he died a widower in 1944. So she was alive in 1912 and died before 1944. Any help here appreciated. Alice C. SELF is daughter of William H. SELF 1832 Ga. who is son to John N. SELF 1813 Bledsoe, Tn.
# 141223 I am descended through my great grandmother, Dora (Doretta) K. Veatch 1868-1961 to Rev. Wheelock and Rebecca Clark. Dora's mother was a Dora C. Woodcock who married John Veatch, son of James Clifford from IN. My parents did not mention any relation to Self, so I'm not at all certain of the connection except for the fact that the Self Family Newsletter comes up in the search of Veatch/Wheelock families. MY great grandmother's family are from many states--MD, VA, PA, NY, MA, IA, MO, TX,CA, IN, KY, etc. etc. Anything sound familiar? Most of Dora's married life was spent in PA what is now Centre County, where she died.
Reply by Dan McCarthy:
Self Family Newsletter, Volume 1, Issue 2, page 57, all from the records of Geraldine McCollum, of Dixon, Illinois.
Marriage Licenses of Frederick County Maryland, 1778-1800
John Self to Rebecca Veatch, March 04, 1783
The Diary of Hezekiah Wilson
"Mary Self was married to Thomas Veatch on the 10th day of October 1801" " John Self departed this life on the 16th of April 1801"
Marriage Licenses of Frederick County Maryland, 1778-1800
John Self to Rebecca Veatch, March 04, 1783
We Veitches, Veatches, Veaches,, Veeches, by Lawrence Guthrie, 1974, page 106. - Ann Veatch, daughter of John and Grace Masters Veatch, married ____ Self, who preceded her in death. Her will was written on the 25th of September 1775, and proved the 25th January, 1776. In it she left legacies to Ann Richards, Lettie Self, and Philander Self; also to son John Self and grandson Elias Plummer, the son of a deceased daughter. Silas Veatch, administrator. (A Joel Plummer and wife Mary Self remove to Hancock County, Indiana in 1836 - dcm)
From the Self Family Newsletter, Volume 11, Issue 2, page 42. The will of Richard Self, 31 December 1773, Frederick County, MD., proven 12 April 1774 names son - John Halling Self, and Ann Self rest of personal Estate. Witnesses include: Thomas Veatch.
# 141231 Still looking for descendants of Self's in Madison and Pickaway Counties in Ohio. My ancestors, James and Maria (Elmore) Self were married in Westmoreland County, VA., on 19 December 1825. I have not been able to find James Self's parents or siblings in VA. In the 1850 Madison Co. Ohio Census, James (age 44, birthplace VA.) and Maria (age 43, birthplace VA.; however 1860 & 1870 census lists her birthplace as Maryland) with the following children: James 19, VA.; Mary 17, VA.; John 16, VA.; Edward 14, OH.; Emily 10, OH.; Mariah 8, OH.; Stephen 5, OH.; twins Labin and Lemuel 3 months, OH. (Eldest daughter Ellen was not living at home at time of census.
I descend from the son John Self. He married Mary J. Westin 6 August 1854 in Madison Co. OH. Their children were: James, b. 1855 d. in infancy; Mariah Jane, b. 1856; and Irving Eugene, born 20 May 1858. Mary J. (Westin) Self died in September 1858 shortly after the birth of Irving. John married Jemima Nash 25 May 1859 and they had the following children: twins May (girl) and Marion (boy), born 1860; John, born 1863; Lydia, born 1864; and Diana, born 1867.
Irving Self married Alice Combs in 1891 Kahoka, Clark County, MO. Their children: Albert Walter, born 1893; DeWayne Terry, born 1897; Irving Eugene Jr., born 1900; Lucian Bartier "Jack" Self, born 1903; and Floyd Lee Ermine, born 1911, died 1923.
Would love to hear from anyone related to any of these lines and hopefully find the parents and siblings of James Self in Virginia. See also my website for information and family pictures.
# 141241 Born in Georgia, reared in the home of a Mr. Self, William Burt was born 30 January 1797 and died 19 May, 1900, at the age of 103 years, three months, and 19 days. One day, when he was sent to the Mill with a turn of corn, he met a man there who engaged him in conversation, and the man asked if he knew what his name was, and he replied - "William Self". The man told him "your real name is Burt", and that he was not a Self. This man told him he had a sister in Mississippi. So when William went back home from the Mill, he packed his best clothing, and left home, never to return to the Self home, or to Georgia.
William Burt was my great great grandfather and this story is all the information I have been able to collect on him. How much of it is accurate, I don't know, but I do know that he left a legacy which I am grateful for.
# 141242 Looking for information on Capt. W. A. Selph. He was in the 38th Mississippi Infantry, army of the Confederate States of America. Capt. Selph died in action on May 31, 1863 at the battle of Vicksburg, MS., and is buried in the paupers' cemetery there. Any information about him or his family would be appreciated. Apparently many records were destroyed and I have been unable to locate details. Anyone have info?
Volume 14 Issue 2
#142531 As Robert J. Self and wife, Tabitha Jane Self and some children still at home, some born post-Civil War, in the Holmes County, Miss., Federal Census of 1880, around West, why did someone install the flat, metal marker for him at Mt. Pleasant Cemetery in northern Holmes County, saying he died in 1865?
#142532 I would like to communicate with folks who descend from the Susan Self born ca. 1829 and died 1868 in Blount Co. AL. She married William Harkey Love, a Methodist minister (circuit rider), born July 6, 1831 and died Oct. 4, 1907 in Blount Co. AL. Their daughter Louisa Evaline love (1849-1928) married my Grandfather, Dallas M. Morton in 1865, Blount County, AL.
#142533 I'm not sure who the people in this photo are. They are either Emeriah Self and Frances "Fanny" Self Burleson, or they Are Hilkiah "Hill K" Self and Elizabeth O. Stokes. Can't remember where I got the photo or any information about it. Any help from my fellow Self research-ers might give will be very much appreciated.
#142534 Have been researching the NE Indiana Self families for 40 years. Would like to find someone related to John Self, b. ca 1811, Virginia, who married my great-grandmother.
#142535 NC/NGA: Sarah Self b c 1780 NC m. William Daniel. They went to AL ca. 1821-24 & back to N GA. She is believed to be related to Job Self of N GA. as she named one of sons Job Daniel. Ties to Francis Self of AL also. She and William went to AL to help "settle his estate" according to family legend. Daniels used Francis as given name for several generations. Seek to tie Sarah to the Selfs of Union & Lumpkin Co. GA. She d. after 1850 in home of Josiah Daniel, her son. They are buried at Shady Grove Methodist Cemetery, Union Co, GA.
#142541 I've been told that Elijah Self (son of Isaac & Nancy) and Polly Henson were married in Rhea County, TN abt. 5/10/1812. I requested a copy of their marriage license from Rhea County last year and was told that it wasn't there. Does anyone have a copy of their marriage license?
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